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Sunday ~ May 20th, 2012 in Babble | by Karl Smith

I am on Up With Chris this morning starting at 8AM on MSNBC with Betsey Stevenson, Bill Black, and Ezra Klein.

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James L. Robinson

Why Obama Wins the 2012 Election

We are about 12-years into the era referred to in the New Testament as the Second Coming, and in the Qur’an as the Resurrection or the Judgment. This means that God is reasserting control and dominion over the earth. There is a lot to clean up. Then, there will be heaven-on-earth. Starting in the Second Coming, God will be influencing affairs, events, and activities more directly. And he is working to “remake” the earth. God’s Chosen (good people) will prevail. Justice, caring, sharing, equality, and prosperity will characterize this new era.

Before getting into why President Obama will win reelection, let me present some information that may be new to you:

1. Thomas Jefferson is the reincarnation of Jacob, father of the renowned 12-boys that became known as Israel.

2. Prophet Muhammad is the reincarnation of Moses. This is no joke, and it was presented to me as an almost obvious fact.

3. President Barack Obama is the reincarnation of President Abraham Lincoln. On a subconscious level, you already know this. Speakers and writers “compare” Obama to Lincoln, over and over – for good reason. Obama reminds them of Lincoln – because he is Lincoln. Just as Lincoln sought to unite America, so does Obama. But half of America (the core are the children of same Southerners) fight against him, and subvert, undermine, and sabotage the economic, social, and political fabric of the USA: treason. How ironic, since Obama, as Lincoln, started the Republican Party – where these traitors now reside. See below:

Daniel 4:21 says … “The most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.”

Daniel 5:25 says … “The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.”

The scriptures explain reincarnation, and how life works thusly:

Luke 20:38 says, “For He (God) is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live in Him.”

Matthew 22:31,32 says, “But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”

Matthew 9:23, says, “And when Jesus came into the ruler’s house, and saw the minstrel and the people making a noise,

24) He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

25) But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

In Chapter 39:42, the Holy Qur’an says, “It is Allah Who takes away the souls at the time of their death, and those that die not, during their sleep. He keeps those souls for which He has ordained death and sends the rest back for a term appointed….”

In Chapter 2:28, it says, How can you disbelieve in Allah? Seeing that you were dead and He gave you life. Then He will give you death, then again will bring you to life, and then unto Him you will return.”

The Rebirth of the USA

The USA is very special and unique. It got authorization and validation for its existence through its Declaration of Independence, and then the US Constitution of 1789. These documents created a covenant containing the USA ideas, ideals, “Mission Statement,” and infrastructure. For the USA is a reflection, or image of Ancient Israel. Compare the 42 Prophet-Kings, Philosopher-Priests, from Abraham to Christ, (in the books of Matthew and Luke) with the 42 presidents of the USA. (Note: George W. Bush compares to a post-Christ era.)

The real world implementation of the covenant falls far short of its ideals! Whatever has a beginning also has an end! So this era is ending, dramatized by 911, and subsequent events and activities.

During the time of Bill Clinton, (the beginning of the Second Coming) the price of oil declined to about $10-11 per barrel. Surpluses appeared in the Federal Budget. And some thought that the Clinton era prosperity signaled the end of regular economic cycles. This reminds us of Jesus feeding the multitude of 5 thousand men, plus women and children, with 5 loaves and 2 fishes, and taking up, after everyone had eaten, 12 baskets full of fragments, that remained. (Matt. 14: 17-21). Also remember the 4 thousand men, plus women and children, fed with 7 loaves, and “a few little fishes.” “And they took up of the broken meat that was left 7 baskets full.” (Matt. 15: 34-38).

After Jesus left the scene, and after Steven was stoned, in 34 AD, the Covenant with Ancient Israel ended. And the dispensation (mission, torch) was given, in-turn to the Christians, and then to the Muslims.

After Clinton, the Covenant with America ended,
So, The Supreme Court selected the next president,
George W. Bush.

The 42 Prophet Kings vs. The USA Presidents

1. Abraham, Gen. 11:26 Like George Washington, 1789
2. Isaac, Gen. 21:2 Like John Adams, 1797

3. Jacob (Israel), Gen. 25:26 Is Thomas Jefferson, 1801

4. Judas, Gen. 29:35 Like James Madison, 1809
5. Phares, Gen. 46:12 Like James Monroe, 1817

6. Esrom, Gen. 46:12 Like John Quincy Adams, 1825
7. Aram, Ruth 4:19 Like Andrew Jackson, 1829
8. Aminadab, Num. 1:7 Like Martin Van Buren, 1837
9. Nasson, Num. 1:7 Like William I. Harrison, 1841
10. Salmon, Ruth 4:20 Like John Tyler, 1841
11. Booz, Ruth 4:21 Like James K. Polk 1845
12. Obed, Ruth 4:17 Like Zachary Taylor, 1849
13. Jesse, Ruth 4:22 Like Millard Fillmore, 1650
14. David, 1 Chron. 2:15 Like Franklin Pierce, 1853
15. Solomon, 2 Samuel 12:24 Like James Buchanan, 1857
16. Roboam, 1 Kings 11:43 Like Abraham Lincoln, 1861
17. Abia, 1 Kings 15:1 Like Andrew Johnson, 1865
18. Asa, 1 Kings 15:9 Like Ulysses S. Grant, 1569
19. Josaphat, 22:41 Like Rutherford B. Hayes, 1877
20. Joram, 2 Kings 8:16 Like James A. Garfield, 1881
21. Ozias, 2 Kings 8:25 Like Chester A. Authur 1881

22. Joatham, 2 Kings 15:32 Like Grover Cleveland, 1885
23. Achaz, 2 Kings 16:1 Like Benjamin Harrison 1889
24. Ezekias, 2 Kings 18:1 Like Grover Cleveland, 1890
25. Manasses, 2 Kings 21:1 Like William McKinley, 1897
26. Amon, 2 Kings 21:18 Like Theodore Roosevelt, 1901
27. Josias, 2 Kings 21:24 Like William H. Taft, 1909
28. Jechonias 1 Chron. 3:16 Like Woodrow Wilson, 1913
29. Salathiel, 1 Chron. 3:17 Like Warren G. Harding, 1921
30. Zorobabel, 1 Chron. 3:19 Like Calvin Coolidge, 1923
31. Abiud, (Matthew) Like Herbert C. Hoover, 1929
32. Eliakim, (Matthew) Like F. D. Roosevelt, 1933
33. Azor, (Matthew) Like Harry S. Truman, 1945
34. Sadoc, (Matthew) Like Dwight D. Eisenhower,1953
35. Achim, (Matthew) Like John F. Kennedy, 1961
36. Elind, (Matthew) Like Lyndon B. Johnson, 1963

37. Eleazar, (Matthew) Like Richard M. Nixon, 1969
38. Matthan, (Matthew) Like Gerald R. Ford, 1974
39. Jacob, (Matthew) Like Jimmy Carter, 1977

40. Joseph, (Jesus’ father) Like Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1981
41. Jesus, (Matthew) Like George H. W. Bush, 1989
42. Christ, (Matthew) Like William J. Clinton, 1993

43. None; Dispensation over. Like George W. Bush, 2001

44. None; Dispensation over. Like Barack Obama, 2009

The USA is very special, in positive, and in negative ways. It is Israel; and it is also an amalgam of the empires Greece/Rome. Look at the sophistry, greed, evil, decadence, and the hatefulness in its politics, and in its economics; and you can immediately see what I mean.

Look at its militarism.

Look at the good. That is all around us, but sometimes it exists by a few frayed threads.

The USA is leader of the 7th, 8th (and last) world Power, according to the Torah and the Gospels.

What comes next is described in the Torah, Gospels, and Qur’an as a golden age of peace, prosperity, accountability and brotherhood.

It says that Satan will be bound 1000-years.

Daniel 9:24-27 says: “70 weeks (490 years, beginning in 457 B.C.), are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and seal up the vision and the prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy (Jesus, The Messiah). Know therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem (in 457 B.C.) unto Messiah, the prince shall be 7 weeks, and threescore and 2 weeks (69 weeks, or 483 years, unto the year 27 A.D.): the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after 7 weeks, and threescore and 2 weeks (69 weeks, or 483 years, plus 3.5 years), shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself…And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 years, from 27 A.D. through 34 A.D.), and in the mist of the week (or in mid 30 A.D.), he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and from the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate….”

Daniel 8:14 says, “And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.” This prophecy (2300 years) spans the time from 457 B.C. to 1844 A.D.

What Happened When the USA Selected the Last Republican President:

The universe is action/reaction, cause/effect,
Cycles, patterns, and justice.

And 911 happened,
Because the covenant expired,
And, just as ancient Israel failed to live up to its agreement,

So has America.
And 911 is a taste of America’s future: war, insecurity, famine (recession), and lack of freedom.
But 911 should also be viewed as an overall, organic process, signaling the end of this era,

And the beginning of the Millennium.

On 911, there were the airplane attacks in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania, plunging the USA into recession, fear, and the “War- on-Terror,” and enabling The Patriot Act, Homeland Security, Threat-Level Color Codes, and other such measures.

From March through October, 2001, there was an “official” recession-but today (on 10/6/03), many talk as if the USA is still in recession, in part, because of its “jobless recovery.”

From about October 9, 2001, through about August, 2002, there was the case of the Anthrax letters in the USA, which killed 5 people and scared millions.

On November 12, 2001, there was the crash of Flight 587, and Airbus 300-600, in Queens, N.Y., that killed 260 people.

In October, 2001, the USA went to war against Afghanistan and Al Qaeda, and today, (10/6/03) there are indications of an increasing resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

In October, 2002, the DC area sniping began, resulting in the deaths of 10 people, and the terrorizing of millions.

In March, 2003, the USA began a preemptive war against Iraq, and it has evolved into a guerrilla war.

In 2000, there was the Florida elections fiasco, and the installation of George W. Bush to the presidency through the efforts of the US Supreme Court.

In 2003, there was the Texas Republican redistricting coup. And in California, there was the successful effort to recall Governor Gray Davis.

In the summer of 2004, four hurricanes hit Florida:
Charley, Frances, Ivan, and Jeanne.

In the summer of 2005, hurricanes Katrina and Rita hit!

In December, 2007, the Great Recession hit the USA and the world.

For, in this era, bad things happen to bad people! You will know them by their fruit!

You will see: The earth is The Lord’s, and the goodness thereof!

The Lord Our God is With President Obama

– God brought Barack Obama back home to Illinois because it is “The land of Lincoln” and Barack Obama is Abraham Lincoln reincarnated.

– God blessed Obama with a brilliant mind and great oratorical ability, perhaps even greater than what he possessed as Abraham Lincoln.

– Barack Obama served in the Illinois Senate.

– Obama worked as Community Organizer, Constitutional Law Professor, and Civil Rights lawyer.

– Obama lost his bid to become a US House Representative because God had bigger and better plans for him.

– Barack Obama became a US Senator after winning the Illinois Democratic nomination for the Senate; then defeating Alan Keyes

– Barack Obama defeated John McCain and became President of the United States.

– Barack Obama directed the Navy Seals in killing Somali pirates in 2009.

– Barack Obama saved the USA (and the western world) from financial collapse.

– Obama oversaw the passage of trailblazing legislation involving heath care, Wall Street reform, and civil rights.

– Barack Obama saved the auto industry; he directed the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

– The Lord our God is with President Barack Obama.

– Daniel 4:21 says … “The most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.”

– Daniel 5:25 says … “The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.”

The Republican Party has been Co-opted by The Devil

– The Republican Party has been taken over by followers of the devil.

– Paul Ryan (of Wisconsin) and others are followers of Ayn Rand (the atheistic, selfish, devil-worshipper).

– Large elements of the Tea Party are dangerous, ignorant, nihilistic subversives, hell-bent on controlling the USA or destroying it.

– The Republican Party leadership is an Anti-Christ Movement, the enemy of man, God, and the USA.

– The leadership of the Republican Party is antithetical to caring/sharing, justice, and equality/respect: they are out of sync with the 2nd Coming – and with God. They endorse or promote greed, selfishness, prejudice, tribalism, injustice, militarism: Anti-Christ values.

– Elements of the Tea Party and the Republican Party are domestic terrorists: they subvert, undermine, and sabotage the economic, social, and political fabric and institutions of the USA. They are traitors. They lie, they lie, and they lie. They distort. They disenfranchise. They cheat. They steal.

– Mitt Romney is not just the world champion of flip-floppers. He lies, he lies, and he lies. Those are not just flip-flops, they are lies.

– America is Israel.

– What do you think God thinks about this compulsive liar, Mitt Romney?

– What do you think God will do to you if you select Mitt Romney? What did he do to you and let happen to you when you selected George W. Bush?

– Daniel 4:21 says … “The most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.”

– Daniel 5:25 says … “The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.”

The Judgment shall sit! And the Rebirth will begin!

The Rebirth will be implemented based, in part, upon certain principles and precedents, referenced to in the Bible, Qur’an, and Torah. These and other references instruct, inform, and guide our actions. They form the basis for our ideology, motivations, and mission.

The Rebirth of the USA will substantially change the economic, social, political, and military conditions in the USA (and the world) – and the world will experience a Rebirth! We expect the changes to be well underway within a few years.

Regarding Reincarnation:

1. I discovered that Thomas Jefferson is the reincarnation of Jacob on 2/23/2002.

2. I discovered that Prophet Muhammad is the reincarnation of Moses on 5/2/2000.

3. I discovered information regarding the reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson on 8/4/1999.

Acts 2:44 (Consider the “Socialistic” references below from Acts: 2: 44-45 and 4: 32, 35)

[44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
[45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Acts 4:32

[32] And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
[35] And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

The Solution: Jubilee Worldwide

What is Jubilee?

Jubilee is privatization.

It is a prelude to creating and implementing the Millennium. It is a process of creating balance and harmony. For those of the Judaeo-Christian-Islamic Tradition, it is The Law of God as handed down through Moses, and modified, especially, by Major Prophets like Jesus and Muhammad. And, it is part of the process of completing that Tradition, which we shall call the “Cycle of Judaism.”

For others, it may be seen as The Law of Nature, for one aspect of nature is to operate in cycles, and periodically, or at times, to obtain a balance, or equilibrium.

The derivation of Jubilee is Leviticus 25:8-13. It says, “And thou shall number 7 Sabbaths of years unto thee, 7 times 7 years; and the space of 7 Sabbaths of years shall be unto thee 40 and 9 years. Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the 10th day of the 7th month, in the Day of Atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout the land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a Jubilee unto you. And ye shall return every man unto his possessions, and ye shall return every man unto his family.”

In practical terms, simultaneously, Jubilee will accomplish, or should be executed with the following events:

Jubilee will cancel all debt, including federal, state, local, business, farm, individual, student, family, and international. Full and complete ownership of all properties, goods, items, etc., shall be privatized to that entity in possession of it at or before Jubilee perpetually. So, all countries, like the USA, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Spain, Russia, Poland, Mexico, Nigeria, Brazil, Zaire, Canada, etc., will become completely free of debt.

So, we will share our knowledge, skills, patents, work, etc. with the world because we are true Muslims, and real Christians, and real Jews.

Jews, Christians, and Muslims, together, may build a Second Solomon Temple somewhere in the midland, in the heartland of the USA.

Amnesty will prevail wherever possible. We will also unclog the local and other courts. Amnesty will prevail! And we will educate, rehabilitate, or eliminate individuals, as necessary.

We must be about Our Father’s Business of creating The Real New World Order. And that is about food, clothing, shelter, housing, education, health care, and privacy, as a primary right. And the right of all people to have their God-given rights shall not be infringed upon.

Everyone will work or contribute. Every able-bodied person will produce something or provide a service.

Businesses will abide by the same laws as the rest of society. If businesses are caught violating the laws, the RICO statues will apply to their criminal activities, and they will be given to more worthy owners. Always, the golden rule will apply.

The system will be administered fairly!

1. There won’t be the collection of “taxes” similar to what we have today.

2. Everyone will work and contribute.
3. Everyone will get food, clothing, shelter, and have medical needs met.

4. Only those who request it will continue to “retire.” People will continue to assist, share, and contribute to society, like the Amish.

5. The early Christian Church, the Ancient Jewish State (during and after Moses), and the example of the Islamic Umma (community) are instructive examples here.

6. Understand that robots, automation, harvesting combines, and modern technology has made the current economic and money system untenable, unworkable, and obsolete.

7. The current system tries to put a “price” on everything. This excludes labor, (employees, and workers), creates, a system with “interest,” recession/depression, inflation, exclusion, discrimination, prostitution, instability, imperialism, slavery, colonialism, a “lie, cheat, steal, kill,” and war paradigm: Satanism!

8. This system produces a jail and prison system like that in the United States, high crime, “garbage” talk-radio, a corrupt and “bought” United States Congress, a Military-Industrial complex like that in the US:

You will know them by their fruit!

9. Thomas Jefferson resolved the conflict with the Barbary Coast “pirates,” to end that war. We will end the wars, likewise.

We will act like mature, sane adults!

10. Many matters are just none of anybody’s business, except for those personally affected. People will take their nose out of other people’s business. Any kinds of infractions, or just activities involve just so many people. We will give those affected justice, truth, and resolution. The State, institutions, and individuals will mind their own business, and only facilitate events to ensure truth and justice!

11. Like the early Christian Church, the Ancient Jewish State (during and after Moses), and the example of the Islamic Umma (community), we shall be FREE!

“God Will Wipe Away Your Tears”

– Everything will be “free”

– There will be no more recession, inflation, or depression.

– A Civil War, The Square Deal, New Deal, Fair Deal, New Frontier, Great Society, and “end” of Communism have been tried. Now we will have a new system!

Just like air is “free,” and “things” are free in “heaven,” so shall it be on earth. For, as it is above, so shall it be below!

Food, clothing, shelter, education, and work shall be free: freely given, freely received. No bottlenecks or “cancer.” No recession, inflation, depression.

But instead:

– Grace

– Amnesty

– Bartering

– Legitimacy,

For it will be:

Like Heaven!

Conclusion: The old paradigms are obsolete: labor, work, politics, government, the Nation-State, pseudo-religions, lack of integrity, the multinational corporation structure, the current economic system, the corrupt, obscene social system, the war-mongering military-industrial complex, etc.

The Second Coming can be ascertained and verified using the 1260-year prophecies, sometimes given as 42 months (Daniel 7:25, 12:7, Revelation 11:2, 11:3, 12:6, 12:14, 13:5), the 2300-year prophecy (Daniel 8:14, 9:24-27), the 1335-year prophecy of Daniel 12:12, the 2520-year prophecy (Daniel 4:15-16, 23, 25, 32), the 42 kings vs. 42 presidents, in Matthew and Luke, the 1-8 Empires indicator in Rev. 17:11, plus historical events. It started during the Clinton Administration.

So, The Second Coming is a number of things:

– It is a time when science, technology, and innovation create the conditions for “heaven on earth.”

– It is a time when those conditions and individuals in opposition to truth, justice, caring, sharing, and openness, and privacy will not exist

on earth.

– It is the beginning of The Millennium, spoken of in the Bible.

– It is the time of The First Resurrection. See Revelation 20.

– It is the time of The Judgment, and The Resurrection, spoken of in The Holy Qur’an.

– It is a time when integrity and truth will be rigorous not only in business, science, architecture, and technology, but also in religion,

social relations, spiritual matters, economics, and social policy. Justice and fairness will be integral components, along with truth and integrity.

– The Second Coming is like having brunch at a buffet: You can have all that you can consume, all you need, and you are free to have what you

want. But you have to pay an entry fee. And the entry fee is quite reasonable. And everyone will participate in a just and fair manner, creating, building, caring, and sharing.

Monday ~ May 21st, 2012 at 12:25 pm

dumdedumdum

what about self driving cars?

Sunday ~ May 20th, 2012 at 11:15 am

simon sekitoleko

Very well written and i agree with you 100%. Thanks for the inspiration

Sunday ~ May 20th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

Darryl Davis (@Darryl_Davis)

I’m disappointed in myself for scrolling to the bottom of this comment.

Sunday ~ May 20th, 2012 at 8:21 pm

Brendon

I’m confused, I come to Karl Smith’s blog after I saw him on Up w/ Chris Hayes, and I click on his last post just a statement of his appearance on Up. What I find is a comment, equal to a multi-paged essay, outlining fatalistic religious prophecy ideas. Is there something about Karl Smith I am unaware of, or something about this simple post I am unaware of?

Monday ~ May 21st, 2012 at 10:18 am

Andrew d

Well, religious prophecy aside, you did a great job on MSNBC Karl, you made some great arguments and your presentation style was absolutely entertaining, like always.

Sunday ~ July 8th, 2012 at 6:45 am

Charles Clark

Karl Smith’s comment that we should shot bankers who don’t lie is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard. At that time of the crash zero or even negative interest rates would not have increased bank to bank lending. The LIBOR had become meaningless. All the banks had come to the conclusion that all the other banks were fraudulent enterprises (as they knew themselves to be) and thus didn’t trust anyone else. MORE FRAUD, which is what Smith recommends, IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO OUR BANKING SYSTEM. Jail time for all fraudsters and breaking up all too big to fail banks is the start of the solution. Today on Up with Chris Hayes is one of the best people on the crisis, Bill Black, who along with Randy Wray and the good folks at UMKC and the Levy Institute have nailed this issues all along. (I gave a lecture to my students in the summer of 2008 on Minsky and the crash of the financial system based on reading Wray’s Levy papers.)

Sunday ~ July 8th, 2012 at 7:02 am

Charles Clark

Sorry, I read Chris Smith’s post above as being this Sunday July 8, when in fact it refers to a May appearance, thus unfortunately Bill Black will not be on Up with Chris Hayes this Sunday.

I strongly encourage those interested in the great recession to read Bill Black and Randy Wray’s blogs. Bill Black helped to put the fraudulent bankers in jail after the S & L crisis, so he knows his stuff, and Wray is top monetary economist of his generation (IMHO). They both know that neoclassical economic theory is part of the problem. If a theory does not account for the actual economy you want to explain, and assumes away the problem you are trying to understand, its time to get rid of the theory.

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